Route Supervision on Queen?

I received a note from Pete Coulman in the Kingston Road thread, and moved it here as a separate item.

Quick comment on Queen service also.

Yes, a supervisor is in the loop at Neville (AM&PM only).  These are timings made at Queen & Lee the other day (May 29).  What do you make of these?

On one hand 13 cars in an hour seems good, on the other hand, the actual headways, especially with a supervisor there, seem all over the place.  As most readers will know, Lee is Stop 6 WB from Neville and on a bad day, one-way travel time from Lee to Neville is about 3 minutes tops.  Check this out.

Car    EB   WB

4244 607 618
4233 608 624
4203 616 627
4212 618 632
4251 620 639
4206 625 648
4208 634 650
4224 6xx 654
4240 651 701
4213 651 702
4238 657 707
4237 700 713
4214 700 718

WB headways are : 3, 5, 7, 9, 2, 4, 6, 1, 5, 6 and 5.

Traffic is not an issue at this hour, there were no accidents, clear morning, AND a supervisor at Neville.

I don’t know what to say …

Supervision?  What supervision?  What is particularly striking are the long round-trip times from Lee to the loop for some runs.  The erratic departure times may be as much an effect of padded running times as anything.  When running times are too long, operators know that (a) they can make up for a long layover and (b) leaving strictly on time means a dawdling trip across the city at a time when there is little traffic.

2 thoughts on “Route Supervision on Queen?

  1. I get the impression that as long as they stay within the advertised F.S. on the poster, they don’t care how sporadic the service. The thing that gets me that this kind of thing is continuing unchecked. I may only have a high school level education, but I know I can do a better job than what’s out there.

    “WB headways are : 3, 5, 7, 9, 2, 4, 6, 1, 5, 6 and 5.”

    Just like the 116 Morningside bus I had to endure tonight, this is painful.

    Steve: More to the point, if they don’t care about headway variations at this level, what exactly is the route supervisor supposed to do?


  2. You’re absolutely right about the long trip times from Lee eastbound to Lee westbound. Some days there seems to be a black hole at Neville swallowing streetcars — you can stand at Lee and watch four go by toward Neville before one shows up going west. (To be fair, I haven’t experienced this nearly as much lately.)


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