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Broadview Station Reopening Delayed

The construction work on Broadview north of Danforth has not run particularly quickly with a few intervals where nothing happened at all for over a week. This appeared to be not the TTC’s problem, but rather the contractor, Sanscon, who simply did not have anyone working on site at times.

As of November 16, they have only now reached the point of excavating the north end of Broadview Station Loop. Both track and concrete are incomplete, albeit progressing, on Broadview and at the loop entrance. Broadview Avenue cannot reopen until this track work has finished and the pavement is restored.

The reopening of the station for bus service is now expected in December (exact date unspecified).

The schedules for “normal” operation at Broadview Station are already in place, but service will operate in an interim configuration pending completion of work at the station.

  • 8 Broadview will operate from Broadview & O’Connor Mortimer to Warden Station. It will no longer interline with 62 Mortimer. [Corrected 6:35 pm, November 16]
  • 62 Mortimer will operate from Broadview & Mortimer to Main Station. It will no longer interline with 8 Broadview.
  • 87 Cosburn will continue operating to Pape Station via Mortimer and Pape.
  • 72 Pape will no longer provide replacement service for Broadview Avenue, but this will be taken over by a 504/505 shuttle. 72A Pape will no longer be interlined with 100 Flemingdon Park.
  • 100 Flemingdon Park will operate from Pape Station independently of 72A Pape.
  • The 504/505 Broadview shuttle will operate from Castle Frank Station to King & Parliament via Bloor, Danforth, Broadview, Queen and King, and it will use on-street stops at Broadview & Danforth.
  • 304 King Night Bus will operate from Castle Frank Station east to Broadview and then over the 504 King daytime route to Dundas West Station.
  • 322 Coxwell Night Bus will divert to Pape Station.

When Broadview Station Loop reopens, routes 8, 62, 87, 100, 504/505, 304 and 322 will resume their normal routes to that loop.

The TTC has not yet published information about on street stops for the temporary western terminals of 8 Broadview and 62 Mortimer.

Here are two views of construction work at the north end of Broadview Station on November 16.

Looking SW from Erindale to Broadview
Looking S into Broadview Station from Erindale

Streetcar operation to Broadview Station will resume in mid-February 2024 following sewer rehab work by Toronto Water.

17 thoughts on “Broadview Station Reopening Delayed”

  1. Sanscon appears to be the contractor of a HUGE number of long-delayed and poorly run projects! They were the main contractor on the never-ending Wellington St Project and one on Military Road where this report makes interesting reading.

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  2. The 8 Broadview terminates at Mortimer and Broadview, not O’Connor and Broadview.

    Steve: Thanks for catching that. I will update the article.

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  3. The name Sanscon seems to come up quite a lot in City infrastructure projects delayed for seemingly unknown reasons with long pauses with zero work, both for transit and roads (Military Trail in Scarborough). Why do they keep getting work? Always the lowest bidder? I guess you get what you pay for?

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  6. So take away a shuttle 72A Pape to an accessible station. Replace it with an inaccessible station no elevator not even enough escalators for Ambulatory individuals.

    Steve: Were it not for the delay in completing the work at Broadview Station, the 504/505 would be using that station which is accessible. But, yes, for the interregnum, those requiring access will have to use on street stops on Danforth west of Broadview and make their way into Broadview Station.

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  7. Steve: This appeared to be not the TTC’s problem, but rather the contractor, Sanscon.

    Yes when the TTC screws up, it is the contractor’s fault but when the contractor or contractor consortium screws up (such as for the Eglinton streetcar line), it is Metrolinx’ fault. Some DOUBLE STANDARDS you have.

    Steve: No double standards at all. It is fairly well documented from the court cases that the P3, Crosslinx, has won against Metrolinx that there were problems with bad specs, with overly-aggressive attempts at risk transfer, and with Metrolinx trying to evade responsibility for their cock-ups. Crosslinx has problems too, but Metrolinx has enough history on this and in other areas such as public consultation where honesty and fair dealing are not their way of doing business. For that they deserve criticism.

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  8. Given Sanscon 1) can’t deliver on anything and 2) is owned by a family where the patriarch is banned from bidding on city contracts due to mismanagement and worker injuries, I am starting to wonder if the city’s contractor policies need to evolve to ensure that a banned person has zero involvement whatsoever in an entity bidding on projects.

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  9. This is bullshit. I live near Cosburn and Pape and work near Broadview and Danforth. The bus service is extremely unreliable and always running late. Then I have to walk half my trip to work.

    I’m paying for a monthly pass on the discount plan instead of canceling so I don’t have to repay what I owe for the year, but truth be told, I don’t use probably half the money spent on the damn pass.

    Why was this not started in the summer when the weather was nicer? Were going into winter and the walk from Mortimer is going to such as people don’t shovel or salt properly.

    The first 2 weeks of the closure I saw no one working every single time I passed the station.

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  10. TTC is %100 responsible for their contractor’s delays. Letting entities off the hook for this criminal behavior is precisely why we have the LRT disaster.

    Steve: For clarity, the paving contractor is hired by the City, not by the TTC, and the City is more than a little pissed off with this contractor for multiple projects.

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  11. I’d like to add some links to my reply – including Gord Perks’ comments and articles detailing Sanscon’s multiple failures. Is there a way to do that here?

    Steve: You can include URLs in your comments. I will tidy up the formatting for hot links.

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  13. I got Councillor Fletchers weekly email today, and this was said about the delays on Broadview:

    “Broadview Between Danforth and Erindale Now Reopening in Early December

    The TTC now expects to re-open Broadview between Danforth and Erindale in early December. The TTC told me the delay is due to unforeseen site conditions underneath the track allowance on Broadview at Erindale.

    The TTC’s engineering team has resolved the issue for construction to safely proceed. However, this has delayed the reopening of Broadview between Danforth and Erindale from this weekend as initially scheduled. Broadview Station bus routes will also not return to Broadview Station this Sunday as initially planned.”

    Methinks they may have run into an issue with the subway tunnel structure located so close to the street? Or is this really a Sanscon problem?

    Steve: The subway tunnel is well south of Erindale down by where the loop entrance is. It runs diagonally northeast and turns straight east under the parking lot. If the problem was at Erindale, nothing would have prevented them from working on the rest of the site rather than letting it sit for two intervals of about two weeks.

    There is a short section just north of Danforth where a set of beams run across under the car tracks to provide added support over the subway which is close to the surface there. But they had already done the southbound side before the work stopped. Moreover they should have known it was there as it was exposed the last time this track was rebuilt, although corporate amnesia is not unknown at TTC.

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  15. Is it true that the City/TTC are required always to accept the lowest bid? And also that Sanscon often/usually submits the lowest bid?

    Steve: Sanscon does not always bid low, but it is normal for the City to take the low bid unless there is some overriding consideration to justify taking a higher one. It is rare for the City to blacklist a contractor.

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  16. Is it true that the City/TTC are required always to accept the lowest bid? And also that Sanscon often/usually submits the lowest bid?

    Steve: I answered this already earlier in the thread. Yes, generally, unless past experience has given a bidder a bad reputation. However, the problems have to be severe to get a firm blacklisted, and it is even harder when firm “A” reappears as “B”, but with the same owners and likely performance problems.

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  17. Steve wrote:

    “There is a short section just north of Danforth where a set of beams run across under the car tracks to provide added support over the subway which is close to the surface there. But they had already done the southbound side before the work stopped. Moreover they should have known it was there as it was exposed the last time this track was rebuilt, although corporate amnesia is not unknown at TTC.”

    In an email I received from TTC, the reply was to the effect of during excavation, there were steel beams underneath the track allowance that were found that were not properly documented.

    Your comment of “corporate amnesia” might just be a little on the nose here.

    Steve: Even more troubling is that in a newsletter from Councillor Fletcher, it was claimed that the “engineering problem” was at Erindale, when in fact these beams are south of the station entrance just north of Danforth. Photos have appeared on this site showing them clearly.

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