The TTC has announced that bus operations will return to Broadview Station in coming days now that reconstruction of the track and paving is complete.
Thursday, January 4:
The 504/505 King/Dundas replacement bus service has operated from Castle Frank Station stopping on street at Broadview & Danforth. It will resume use of Broadview Station. The 304 King Night bus will also return to the station.
The 8 Broadview and 62 Mortimer buses have terminated at Broadview & Danforth using on street stops, and then deadheading to Gerrard to loop near Bridgepoint Hospital. They will return to their normal looping at Broadview Station.
Sunday, January 7:
The 87 Cosburn, 100 Flemingdon Park and 322 Coxwell Night buses have operated to Pape Station. They will resume their normal routes to Broadview Station.
Streetcar Service
Streetcar service is expected to return to Broadview Station on 504B King and 505 Dundas in the mid-February schedule changes.
Steve Munro 
When is the new 501 Queen diversion via Richmond/Adelaide coming into effect? When is the track construction, overhead wires, etc construction on Wellington going to be completed? What route will this be used for? 504 King I would guess. Happy New Year.
Steve: The 501 via Richmond/Adelaide diversion in theory comes into service in May. I will be astounded if that actually happens.
Wellington Street has had streetcars on it since October 8/23, and the 501D Queen East service is looping via Church, Wellington, York and King. I suspect that when the Queen route is restored in one piece, we may see the 503 return to using Wellington, but nothing has been announced on that yet. Given that 503 is now an all-day route, it will make the connection to the subway somewhat less convenient westbound with a walking transfer either north from Wellington & Yonge to King Station, or from York & King west to St. Andrew Station.
See October 2023 Construction Updates gallery for photos on Wellington.
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Why wouldn’t streetcars return right away?
Steve: There is still some work to be done on full conversion of the overhead for pantographs, as well as sewer cleanout and inspection work which requires trucks to sit on the streetcar tracks.
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Steve, how long does it take the TTC to change the maps on the on line schedules? The Broadview and O’Connor routes have officially changed but no changes on their site with the maps.
Steve: This is a long-standing problem that maps on the route schedule pages do not reflect reality. They normally don’t get updated for construction changes, but there are situations where routes have formally changed and this is not reflected in the maps. One of many issues with website maintenance and customer info generally. (Also they are very bad maps in many cases.)
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The TTC problem with outdated route maps is yet another example of an organisation that has ‘silos’ which appear to be uncoordinated. Part of the problem is that the TTC seems to see ‘customer information’ as an extra, maybe nice but … One sees the same lack of planning and coordination when routes change number and vehicle stop signage is not adjusted (when the Bay bus changed from a #6 to a #19 it took about 6 months to get stop signage updated) or a route changes completely (there is still a stop on southbound Princess that has not seen any service since the 65 bus was extended in 2021!) I think the TTC has a Chief Customer Service Officer – they have some work to do!
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@City Boy:
I remember finding a TTC map in the construction mess at Union Subway Station just before the south platform opening that had the 77C Spadina bus running along Queen’s Quay and looping at Yonge Street.
Steve: What I find particularly annoying is that we now have “Station Supervisors” who, among other duties, should be flagging out of date signage and removing it, or in the case of large route maps, ensuring they get replaced. Frankly I have no sense of the Station Supervisors doing anything at all like the sort of thing Andy Byford touted them for when he advanced that model.
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Steve is 100% correct, these station “supervisors” do nothing but just stand around doing nothing. The problem is that when the TTC had hired them, the TTC had hired low-skilled workers meant to be selling tokens and tickets and they just don’t have the skills to be detecting mistakes on maps or handling sophisticated technology. The TTC should offer them an early retirement and replace them with more qualified people instead.
Steve: I think that a lot of the problem is not the skill set of the workers, but that management has never taken many aspects of “station management” seriously and therefore does not see it as an integral part of the function. Moreover, there were assumptions that somehow replacing collectors with station managers would ultimately reduce costs, something that is demonstrably untrue if these “managers” are expected to both oversee the operation of their entire station and provide various information/assistance services to riders.
But any pitch that says “we can save headcount” gets the endorsement of Board members who have no idea how stations and transit in general actually work.
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It’s been an endurance test for many in that area, though less speeding car traffic zooming up Broadview, and too bad we don’t have competitive fast transit.
Two things missed: a shame – when everything so ripped up, there weren’t stoplights put in for letting the transit vehicles exit across at-times busy Broadview, but there are residues of only folks in cars deserve speed and they’re not so counted in any ‘traffic’ studies. Having another set of stoplights added close to others does get resisted by the City/politicians at times, but there are now fresh stoplights installed on Spadina Ave. just S of Bloor to enable the parking lot of UTS users to get across and go south, so take a bow Mr. Cressy who shot daggers at me when he asked who opposed this. There’s also another ‘extra’ stoplight on Queen between Bay and Yonge presumably to help folks cross to Eaton Centre and/or transit.
Maybe there just wasn’t the budget – not just awareness – as of course we must bury the billions in suburban subway extensions and repair some of our roads for free-riders.
The other missing – but incredibly cheap to at least reduce liability – thing, is to make Broadview a tiny bit safer for cyclists is painting some bike sharrow symbols on the northbound curb lane as the tracks can pose a grabbing risk of a bike wheel and subsquent fall/injury, but any of these symbols should be painted on an angle that’s at least say, 30 degrees to the tracks.
It’d also be nice to have enforcement on the taxi cabs to park tight to the curb, though that’s common despite it being a revenue source.
And depending on how much north of $50,000,000 or whatever the cost was, too bad we can’t aerate the soil of the venerable large tree close to the NW corner where there should be a light.
And pedestrians will still have a lot of pigeon shit to walk atop on that east side sidewalk: old bike tires underhanded up towards the hydro wires may work to get the pigeons to flock off, and they are dirty birds and likely are being fed.
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Station “supervisors” should also “supervise” the arrivals and departures of trains, streetcars, and buses at the station. Making sure they are on time. Maybe direct traffic outside the station to get the transit vehicles moving on time, to avoid bunching. Maybe even pickup the litter, and call in support to take care of graffiti or vandalism.
Steve: That’s a tall order for one person even at a moderately busy station. The problem is that the TTC seeks every opportunity to reduce headcount without considering how the services that are needed might be provided.
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Regarding “Station supervisors”, I’ve noticed that GO Transit has adapted the version that Andy Byford originally wanted at the TTC. The ticket collectors at my local GO station, Danforth are now out of the booths and on the platform – even in winter. They answer questions, help people buy tickets at the machines, make the platform train arrival announcements (with mobile radios) and patrol the platforms. I wonder how GO was able to do this with their unionized work force but not the TTC. It is sort of sad that the TTC collectors are still stuck in their booths (when they are still staffed) with little to do as they can’t sell Presto fare media. The collectors should be allowed to sell Presto fares one time tickets, reload Presto cards, and validate senior/youth changes to Presto or get them out of the booths.
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Steve, I noticed today in the online timetables that there are no maps (today) for any of the routes. Do you have any idea why??
Steve: Which routes? I just checked a few and there are maps.
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Sorry Steve, the maps are back. They were gone for a couple of hours. What was weird in that time period was that they had the Stockyards route listed as a green express route. It was odd for a while.
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Hi Steve. I bike up/down (well, not down for a few months) Broadview Ave and by the station to get to/from my workplace. When the station track work began, I would stop every few days to observe the progress. Often I would think “maybe they are handling one phase before the loop extension” but obviously it became clear everything would remain the same.
I’ve been using some of the bus routes (now that we can) rather than riding due to the recent chilly weather and thought the other day “Wait, Steve Munro probably has the answer” and you did!
Comments were closed on those articles so I’m posting here to say thank you for being such a quality source of transit information!
Steve: You’re very welcome! Yes, comments are closed off automatically on older articles, but I can always move them if necessary.
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