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	<title>Comments on: Analysis of Route 29 Dufferin &#8212; Part I:  Introduction</title>
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		<title>By: Christopher L</title>
		<link>http://stevemunro.ca/?p=726&#038;cpage=1#comment-31811</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I really appreciate the route analysis and the zig-zag time/location charts are a fantastic way of presenting the data.  But if you would consider it, I have one request.  Could you produce different charts for UP trips and DOWN trips?  During the peak periods those charts become a mess of lines and I find them unintelligible.  Separate charts for UP and DOWN would make it far easier to interpret headways and travel speeds.  A million thank-yous if this is possible.

&lt;em&gt;Steve:  It is possible with a bit of programming, although an alternative is to change the data display in either of two ways.

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shorten the time span for one page to spread out the data.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Change the paper type from letter to legal to give more horizontal space.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

The main reason I show both directions on one chart is that it clarifies which trips go together.  This reveals situations where the same vehicle consistently runs immediately behind another one, and clarifies behaviour at short turns.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I really appreciate the route analysis and the zig-zag time/location charts are a fantastic way of presenting the data.  But if you would consider it, I have one request.  Could you produce different charts for UP trips and DOWN trips?  During the peak periods those charts become a mess of lines and I find them unintelligible.  Separate charts for UP and DOWN would make it far easier to interpret headways and travel speeds.  A million thank-yous if this is possible.</p>
<p><em>Steve:  It is possible with a bit of programming, although an alternative is to change the data display in either of two ways.</p>
<ul>
<li>Shorten the time span for one page to spread out the data.</li>
<li>Change the paper type from letter to legal to give more horizontal space.</li>
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<p>The main reason I show both directions on one chart is that it clarifies which trips go together.  This reveals situations where the same vehicle consistently runs immediately behind another one, and clarifies behaviour at short turns.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
		<link>http://stevemunro.ca/?p=726&#038;cpage=1#comment-31773</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 23:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the 29 route is that, there is no offical station for a bus to stop and pick up. Since Dufferin station is a &quot;stop&quot; on a bus route, there is 1 bus for two routes. For example if there was a Southbound route from Nloor to the Dufferin Loop and a northbound route from Bloor to Wilson station, then it would be much easier to organize route times, and it will be similiar to the Victoria Park 24 and the 12 line. 

In the summer, I went to the CNE grounds in july for a visit. It was a day with no special events.  I took the 29 at around 3 pm. I saw 3 29 buses at this loop doing nothing but just parked there and the drivers just chatting. Now I know they could be on their break, but this is unacceptable. 

Hey, Steve I want to say that your site is amazing, but maybe we could have a message board. It will create more discussion on these important topics. There are two other routes in the TTC line I think is also very poor. The Bellamy 9 (only 1 bus on the route on weekends and on week days 15-20min just if you&#039;re lucky) and the 102 Markham.. there are always 2 or 3 bunched together and if you miss that you have to wait 10 min.. Now I don&#039;t expect you to include this in this thread I just wanted you to know that and your own personal opinion.

&lt;em&gt;Steve:  The bus routes for which I have data, in addition to Dufferin, are Bathurst, Finch West and East, Don Mills and Victoria Park.  I also have data for all the streetcar lines although I have not yet presented analyses of Spadina/Harbourfront, Bathurst, Dundas, Carlton or St. Clair.

I run this site in my spare time, and there are times it sort of takes over my life when an important issue breaks.  I&#039;m not planning to allow any additional features because then I would have to monitor them, and I want to keep the overall quality high and the focus on topics that interest me.  Even if readers don&#039;t always agree, the discussion is interesting and forces me to think about my own positions.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the 29 route is that, there is no offical station for a bus to stop and pick up. Since Dufferin station is a &#8220;stop&#8221; on a bus route, there is 1 bus for two routes. For example if there was a Southbound route from Nloor to the Dufferin Loop and a northbound route from Bloor to Wilson station, then it would be much easier to organize route times, and it will be similiar to the Victoria Park 24 and the 12 line. </p>
<p>In the summer, I went to the CNE grounds in july for a visit. It was a day with no special events.  I took the 29 at around 3 pm. I saw 3 29 buses at this loop doing nothing but just parked there and the drivers just chatting. Now I know they could be on their break, but this is unacceptable. </p>
<p>Hey, Steve I want to say that your site is amazing, but maybe we could have a message board. It will create more discussion on these important topics. There are two other routes in the TTC line I think is also very poor. The Bellamy 9 (only 1 bus on the route on weekends and on week days 15-20min just if you&#8217;re lucky) and the 102 Markham.. there are always 2 or 3 bunched together and if you miss that you have to wait 10 min.. Now I don&#8217;t expect you to include this in this thread I just wanted you to know that and your own personal opinion.</p>
<p><em>Steve:  The bus routes for which I have data, in addition to Dufferin, are Bathurst, Finch West and East, Don Mills and Victoria Park.  I also have data for all the streetcar lines although I have not yet presented analyses of Spadina/Harbourfront, Bathurst, Dundas, Carlton or St. Clair.</p>
<p>I run this site in my spare time, and there are times it sort of takes over my life when an important issue breaks.  I&#8217;m not planning to allow any additional features because then I would have to monitor them, and I want to keep the overall quality high and the focus on topics that interest me.  Even if readers don&#8217;t always agree, the discussion is interesting and forces me to think about my own positions.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew C</title>
		<link>http://stevemunro.ca/?p=726&#038;cpage=1#comment-31764</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve ridden 29 Duffern only once -- a weekday heading home from the CNE (to Wilson Stn). Even with the extra service, I could easily see service was erratic at best.

At numerous points on the route, I could see larger crowds at some stops, indicating that buses had not been by in a while. Some buses had large gaps between them, and usually the bus behind such a gap was crushloaded, often with 2 or 3 buses right behind also crushloaded. Funnily enough, there was a large crowd of buses filling Dufferin Loop (most would go to Dufferin service, some on 193). My bus was passed by Queen by another bus, which turned back at Dufferin Stn (and no, there were hardly any pickups south of Queen to delay us).

Some people have blammed this bunching on the high-floor Orion Vs that provide service, and say that it should be converted into a low-floor route since many strollers/wheelchairs use the route, and a low-floor ramp is easier and quicker to deploy than a high-floor lift.

Another dealing with 29: One day while I was on Tycos Dr., I saw 4 buses pass by in about an hour to 1.5 hour span. This was on a Saturday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve ridden 29 Duffern only once &#8212; a weekday heading home from the CNE (to Wilson Stn). Even with the extra service, I could easily see service was erratic at best.</p>
<p>At numerous points on the route, I could see larger crowds at some stops, indicating that buses had not been by in a while. Some buses had large gaps between them, and usually the bus behind such a gap was crushloaded, often with 2 or 3 buses right behind also crushloaded. Funnily enough, there was a large crowd of buses filling Dufferin Loop (most would go to Dufferin service, some on 193). My bus was passed by Queen by another bus, which turned back at Dufferin Stn (and no, there were hardly any pickups south of Queen to delay us).</p>
<p>Some people have blammed this bunching on the high-floor Orion Vs that provide service, and say that it should be converted into a low-floor route since many strollers/wheelchairs use the route, and a low-floor ramp is easier and quicker to deploy than a high-floor lift.</p>
<p>Another dealing with 29: One day while I was on Tycos Dr., I saw 4 buses pass by in about an hour to 1.5 hour span. This was on a Saturday.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bunching is horrible along Dufferin- usually 3 or 4 vehicles, especially at Dufferin Loop. I would be curious as to the reliability of available bike racks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bunching is horrible along Dufferin- usually 3 or 4 vehicles, especially at Dufferin Loop. I would be curious as to the reliability of available bike racks.</p>
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